Help your students explore 
conversational engagement that’s right for THEM.

Have You Felt That:

  • you want to build your students’ conversation skills but don’t know where to start?

  • you don’t have many (or any) materials to use when working on conversation?

  • ​you‘re poorly equipped to write conversation goals that support neurodiversity but still challenge students to grow?

CPPEV (si-pev) 2.0 can help.  Conversations build relationships.

Conversation Paths Pack Expanded Version 2.0 is a semi-structured curriculum to build conversation. Additional material to support clinicians includes info on assessment, goal writing, rubrics, progress tracking, and more. Templates & tutorials included. 

As an SLP, I’ve always worked on conversation with my students. After all, it’s how we connect with others to find fulfilling relationships. Over the years, I realized there weren’t lots of materials to use.

 

I knew I wanted to work on much more than turn taking or asking questions…and what about goal writing? It felt pretty much like a wasteland out there.

 

Maybe you’ve felt the same frustration. So, I started making my own materials. Now, I’ve put all those materials together to into the Conversation Paths Pack Expanded Version 2.0 (CPPEV2.0)

With CPPEV 2.0 you will:

  • have a framework with clear directions for working on the complexities of conversation.

  • be able to scaffold student learning with materials that incorporate lots of visual supports.

  • have access to made-for-you rubrics to write goals and track progress.

  • What Clinicians Say

    “I've just had a chance to look at Anna's Conversation Paths Pack Expanded Version. She's added lots of great information that makes them even more useful and easy to use than the original Paths! In transitioning to teletherapy in the early days of the pandemic, I viewed Anna’s presentation on her then-new Conversation Paths techniques and visuals and instantly envisioned their application in therapy. Since then, they have proved to be invaluable- setting the “plan” for conversational activities, providing visual supports that aid in processing and engagement, and addressing organic strategies and building blocks that are supported by research around conversational interventions. I’ve found them very adaptable to many verbal activities within groups, and also invaluable in-person with the use of a TV monitor or classroom projector. Having previewed the expanded materials, I can say that there is now more to love about Conversation Paths!”

    — Sean Sweeney MS MED CCC-SLP, speechtechie.com

  • What Leaders in the Field Say

    "CPPEV is a necessary and timely program for development and enhancement of social skills in the school-aged population. It is comprehensive and data driven for measuring outcomes, modifying therapy goals and individualizing the essentials involved with conversational skills. The use of templates provides busy clinicians with tools necessary to document, measure and expand progress and outcomes in a sequenced hierarchy that is fun, engaging and relevant for students as well as clinicians. CPPEV is a must-have for SLPs."

    — Dr. Deborah Swain, Ed.D., CCC-SLP,
    Clinical Director/CEO, The Swain Center
    Editor ASHA SIG 17 Perspectives Journal

  • What Clinicians Say

    "I just used your “Conversation Paths” for a client and it worked so well! I definitely will continue to use this as a therapy tool. This is well needed! Thank you so much! "

    — Nancy, SLP

  • What Mental Health Professionals Say

    "Conversation Paths Pack Expanded Version is an extremely user-friendly program that will not be overwhelming or intimidating to new clinicians. Seasoned clinicians will find it to be a practical tool that will save them a significant amount of time. This should be a required tool for all school-based SLPs who are juggling multiple demands. I have been a fan of Anna's work for years and appreciate her holistic approach to teaching social pragmatics. What I love the most about CPPEV is that it addresses the common "blind spots" I find are often never addressed both in individual treatment and groups. I am confident that CPPEV will be a resource that SLPs use regularly, which is why I'm recommending it to my SLP colleagues in schools and private practice."

    — Ryan Wexelblatt, LCSW
    ADHD Dude

  • What Leaders in the Field Say

    "What a good idea! CPPEV is well thought out, with a solid scope and sequence."

    — Michelle Garcia Winner, MA, CCC-SLP
    Founder of the Social Thinking Methodology

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What's included? Glad you asked! 

Is CPPEV 2.0 right for the students in your caseload?​

CPPEV 2.0 is recommended for:

  • students in 4th- 5th grade and higher (this, of course, depends on individual profile, strengths, & goals.)

  • individual, group, in-person or teletherapy sessions.

Since standard classifications using the DSM-V, which stem from a deficit focused/medical model are still commonly used, these guidelines may help identify if CPPEV 2.0 is an appropriate therapy choice.

CPPEV 2.0 is often/usually appropriate for students with diagnoses such as:

  • Social (Pragmatic) Communication Disorder 

  • Language Disorder/Language Impairment

            students with language formulation and/or language processing differences

  •  Students with an “original” diagnosis of Asperger’s but who now fall under ASD

  • Attention Deficit/Hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD) – often listed in IEPs as Other Health Impaired

 

CPPEV 2.0 may be appropriate for students with a diagnosis of:

  • Autism Spectrum Disorder (ASD)

  • Social Anxiety Disorder 

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CPPEV 2.0 is typically NOT appropriate for students with a diagnosis of ASD who:

  • are nonverbal or minimally verbal

  • who communicate via AAC devices, ASL, or modified sign language

CPPEV 2.0 is now available à la carte!

$20

The Conversation Paths include:

- 108 Paths to use in individual or group sessions  

- a clear way to work on conversation

- ready-made VISUALS to guide your students

- customizable “cue cards”

- easy record keeping

$18

The Rubrics include:

- a clear way to write functional, neuro-diversity affirming goals about conversation

- easy record keeping

- 4 READY-TO-USE rubric templates: use the available language or customize as you want

$12

The Practice Activities include:

- activities targeting: inference, remembering, opinions, staying engaged, conversation pacing & spontaneity

- clear activity templates to use

$15

The Assessment & Goal Writing PowerPoint includes:

-over an hour of narration – a FREE mini-workshop with Anna

- an overview of the complexities of conversation

- an intro to using the rubrics to write goals that MATTER.

Included with all purchases:

QuickStart includes;

- an overview of CPPEV2.0

- narration & video showing how to get started

Evidence-Based Practice Doc includes:

- information on how CPPEV2.0 fits with EBP

Bibliography Doc includes:

- you guessed it – a categorized bibliography

CCPEV Tutorials include:

- 12 videos so you get the most out of the program

CONVERSATION PATHS PACK EXPANDED VERSION 2.0 (CPPEV 2.0) - NOW AVAILABLE

Price $65.00

Customizable Conversion Paths & Practice Activities, built to help you  support students working to expand and improve their conversational and social engagement abilities.  

  • What Clinicians Say

    "I've been really enjoying using the conversation paths with students. It's helped me pinpoint what part of the path is tricky for them. I discovered that one student had the comments totally nailed down, while needing additional work on questions. We've spent some time identifying topics to be curious about (e.g. interests, school, family, etc.), and coming up with a variety of questions one could ask related to those topics. It's been really helpful and the student is feeling much more confident in having conversations with others. Thanks for the great and simple to use resource!"

    — Bailey V. Levis, M.S., CCC-SLP, Licensed Speech and Language Pathologist
    Owner, SF Speech and Fluency Center

  • What Educators Say

    "Watching Anna Vagin's Webinar about her new product, Conversation Paths Pack Expanded Version (CPPEV) was a great way to spend 90 minutes, even on a beautiful Saturday afternoon. CPPEV encourages student to student talk with varying degrees of scaffolding. Although designed as a program to be used by SLP's, I see great potential for classroom use and collaboration between SLP's and classroom teachers."

    —Martha Heller-Winokur, B.S., MEd
    K-8 Literacy Consultant

  • What Clinicians Say

    "Dr. Vagin’s tips and tricks will continue to help me both in person and in teletherapy if needed in the years to come.""

    — Megan, SLP

  • What Kids Say

    "Of all the things you’ve had us do, this was SO much FUN!! Let’s do another one!”

    — Theodore, 7th grade, after his group’s first experience with Conversation in Real Time

  • What Parents Say

    “Our daughter has been working with the Paths for more than a year, and we have been thrilled with the results! Not only does she enjoy them, but her conversation skills have markedly improved, and her confidence in starting and engaging in conversations has grown dramatically. She is more flexible and expansive in her conversations. She continues to grow in her skills and enthusiasm with this program!”

    — Lexie C.

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I'm Here For You

Anna Vagin, PhD

Speech and Language Pathologist & Founder of Social Learning Labs

I believe…

  • Social interaction offers opportunities for lifelong learning and personal growth, as defined by each individual. 

  • Conversation is a complex, dynamic, and spontaneous aspect of social interaction, with organic connection and flow. In conversations, people transmit meaning in many different ways.  

  • A strength-based approach, as well as the integration of self-determined goals - with progress measured via individual change rather than conformity to neurotypical standards - must be part of our clinical process.

  • CPPEV is not for everyone. Selecting appropriate materials for our students is our responsibility.

  • Using CPPEV in a way that expresses prejudices based on disability (ableism) or judgmentally demands masking (explicitly or implicitly) is in opposition to its intent.

My Goals are to help you:

  • simplify your planning time

  • create engaging & fun sessions

  • increase your clinical effectiveness

CPPEV FAQs

  • Yes, there is lots of material! We often suggest starting with the QuickStart for an orientation to all that’s included, and then exploring the Paths with students. Then, explore the assessment info, practice activities and rubrics when you feel like it. We’re convinced you will find all the sections useful, but it’s okay to take your time! We hope to see you at one of our livestream events!

  • If you purchased CPPEV on socialtime.org, the email address you used to download the program is already registered, so you don’t have to do anything! If you purchased CPPEV through a purchase order, the email address the program was sent to is registered.

  • We all have different levels of experience with Powerpoint. There are quite a few free tutorials on the website to take you through step-by-step for getting started. We encourage you to give it a try – if you run into troubles, we are just an email away!

  • Unfortunately, CPPEV needs to be re-formatted so that you’ll be able to access all the information and narration. We are working on it, so stay tuned!

  • Yes! The dates and times for the monthly office hours are posted on this website. If you have questions, comments, or just want to talk about CPPEV, drop on by!